Wednesday, March 02, 2005

When partisanship trumps humanism

From today's best of the web, an exchange between Jon Stewart and Clinton aide Nancy Soderberg, author of "The Superpower Myth: The Use and Misuse of American Might."

Stewart: Do you think that the people of Lebanon would have had, sort of, the courage of their conviction, having not seen--not only the invasion but the election which followed? It's almost as though that the Iraqi election has emboldened this crazy--something's going on over there. I'm smelling something.

Soderberg: I think partly what's going on is the country next door, Syria, has been controlling them for decades, and they [the Syrians] were dumb enough to blow up the former prime minister of Lebanon in Beirut, and they're--people are sort of sick of that, and saying, "Wait a minute, that's a stretch too far." So part of what's going on is they're just protesting that. But I think there is a wave of change going on, and if we can help ride it though the second term of the Bush administration, more power to them.

Stewart: Do you think they're the guys to--do they understand what they've unleashed? Because at a certain point, I almost feel like, if they had just come out at the very beginning and said, "Here's my plan: I'm going to invade Iraq. We'll get rid of a bad guy because that will drain the swamp"--if they hadn't done the whole "nuclear cloud," you know, if they hadn't scared the pants off of everybody, and just said straight up, honestly, what was going on, I think I'd almost--I'd have no cognitive dissonance, no mixed feelings.

Soderberg: The truth always helps in these things, I have to say. But I think that there is also going on in the Middle East peace process--they may well have a chance to do a historic deal with the Palestinians and the Israelis. These guys could really pull off a whole-

Stewart: This could be unbelievable!

Soderberg:---series of Nobel Peace Prizes here, which--it may well work. I think that, um, it's-

Stewart: [buries head in hands] Oh my God! [audience laughter] He's got, you know, here's-

Soderberg: It's scary for Democrats, I have to say.

Stewart: He's gonna be a great--pretty soon, Republicans are gonna be like, "Reagan was nothing compared to this guy." Like, my kid's gonna go to a high school named after him, I just know it.

Soderberg: Well, there's still Iran and North Korea, don't forget. There's hope for the rest of us.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Okay I tried to contact the post above about Rutgers & collegeporn link. What is that shit doing on this site? Either you guys are running a classy show or you're not. Clean up your act or I won't be back not that it matters.

marco said...

Did you read the link? Because it had nothing to do with college porn, it had to do with people trying to impose their standards of decency on others and impinging on their economic freedom in the process. This seems like a perfectly suitable topic for the blog. But regardless, please don't impose your standards on us, it's not like we force you to read anything we write.

Anonymous said...

and CCLBlog links to collegehumor BECAUSE? jerks.

Mike's America said...

Hey CCL: Greetings from a formerly oppressed conservative in SIPA.. Thank god, I had the good sense to get out in the real world...

Regaring Soderberg...
When trying to understand Soderberg's outrageous comments, we need to consider the source:

She was on the staff of Senator Kennedy before joining the Clinton Gore Administration. As number 3 on the staff of the National Security Council, she was at Clinton’s right hand during much of the malfeasance we witnessed during that time.

When she remarks about something going wrong in North Korea, she ought to know. Sec. Albright and Soderberg were among the cabal of America apologists that thought they could buy good will from Kim Jong Il… Didn’t work DID IT!

Now, Bush is cleaning up the mess these people made and all they can do is hope he does not succeed…

Very sad… Politics used to stop at the water’s edge… But power and personal bitterness seems to be more important to these folks than their own nation’s success in making the world a freer, more peaceful place.

If Kerry had been elected, she would no doubt be back in office. God forbid!

FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

marco said...

Welcome mike, if you would like to blog on this site let me know.

Adam Scavone said...

"Clean up your act or I won't be back not that it matters."

you are the weakest link!
goodbye!